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SubarrowEvelyn·9/8/2015 in The bin

Conventions (or rather, lack of)

There doesn't really seem to be established conventions for a lot of things. For instance, country names are variable, inconsistent, and sometimes not entirely accurate.

One example would be how I would describe a mask from the Republic of Korea. Is that Korea, South Korea, Republic of Korea, or Korea (South)?

The situation is worse for Soviet (here, seemingly 'Russian') masks. Were they made in Russia, the Soviet Union, or the USSR? At some points, articles have included CCCP (using latin codepoints, oddly), and Сою́з Сове́тских Социалисти́ческих Респу́блик.

Actually, for that matter, how should we translate? How should transliteration and translation be handled in articles?

Where does the filter go in? Are those 40mm NATO, 40mm, or STANAG 4155 compliant? Is it worth having categories for thread compatibility?

Categories can be inconsistent too. The 'porkchop' filters are categorised under Gas Mask Canisters, despite not being canisters of any sort. Should they all be moved to something less specific, such as Gas Mask Filters, or should it get a distinct category to reflect the type?

Are categories 'mask' or 'masks'? For what it's worth, there seem to be more 'masks' categories.

Cold War Era Mask

World War II Era Mask

World War I Era Mask

Child Gas Masks

British Gas Masks

We have a category for Respirators, a term which arguably covers every gas mask we have, but which only seems to be used for Half Face Masks

If a mask is used by a military, and also law enforcement, then is that a military mask? civilian mask? Is it both? Do we need a separate category to denote paramilitary uses?

Thoughts, please ^-^

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Lim70·9/8/2015

I think that it would be a good idea to standardize the categorization of USSR/Russian gas masks, but other than that I don't think that it would be worth the time. People get the basic idea of what is trying to be said and we don't need to standardize every little thing, as well as have to try to enforce all the little mistakes people make.

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Ted55·9/9/2015

Regarding the country names, I don't really find a need to go into the specifics of where exactly the gas mask is from, using your example, when a person says the mask is from Korea, it's most likely that it's from South Korean, considering the fact that most military gas masks or even civillian issue gas masks from North Korea are not going to be exported out of the country any time soon, same goes with the Russian/USSR gas masks, just as long as people get the general idea of where the gas mask is from, and which year it was issued/produced, it shouldn't really be a problem since you can tell whether the gas mask was made back when Russia was known as the USSR.

I would find it useful if the catagories of the gas masks were not so generalised. A "Cold War gas mask" can also be a "Civilian gas mask", however the time needed to recategorize everything and to think of new categories to put the gas masks into may not be worth it. Also, from a practical standpoint, I feel that the NATO 40mm filters and 40mm filters don't really need specific categorization since they are pretty much interchangeble.

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SubarrowEvelyn·9/9/2015

North Korean masks, from what I recall, are simply imported. They would be using either Chinese or Soviet types, so I guess there's also that.

Russia was part of the USSR. There were also fourteen other republics which are now independent states.

Cold war masks can be categorised as civilian. The Russian PDF-D article, for instance, has both of those categories.

STANAG and GOST threading, while both being 40mm, also aren't really compatible. Hence the question on this point.

I probably care too much about this tbh

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Ted55·9/9/2015

That's why I feel that once you say Korean gas mask, it's most likely from South Korea, since North Korea uses either gas masks imported from China or old Soviet surplus. But I do think that proper categorisation is important due to the fact that the aim of this wikia is to provide accurate information about gas masks and to act as a database for information about gas masks, so proper categorisation would be more convient for people to find out information regarding gas masks, so no, you're not caring too much about it XD.

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